Thanks for the vote of confidence. While I don't claim the title "Casper Trainer", I'll try to answer your question. I invite anyone from JAMF to correct me if my understanding is flawed.<div><br></div>
<div>Casper is not intended to image without a JSS.</div><div><br></div><div>If I had to, I think I could "trick" Casper Imaging into deploying an image without a JSS by pre-caching the necessary packages and scripts onto my external device. I'd have to experiment a bit to see if I am correct, but my gut feeling is that it would be possible though require doing things in an unsupported way. Casper Imaging having the built-in and supported ability to cache configurations and the contents of a distribution point could certainly be useful. I'd recommend that anyone who finds it useful contact JAMF with a feature request.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Deploy Studio is free, and it does provide a decent imaging solution for the price. When used from portable drives, it seems a bit better than having a monolithic image deployment. When used in its server model, it seems to be of only slightly greater utility than using Apple NetInstall. The difference being that you would have to build and store a separate NetInstall image for each "configuration" if you went with the pure Apple solution.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As far as deploying Windows goes, I'm of the opinion that Casper is the "best of breed" solution for deploying and maintaining Macs. If I ever assumed responsibility for deployment and maintenance of Windows PCs, I'd research the "best of breed" deployment and management utility/suite for Windows.</div>
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<font face="Lucida Grande" size="3">I think the point Thomas was making was imaging PC clients from a Mac server, ive downloaded the documentation and installed the DS and for the mac side it is a very basic imaging and packing deployment product, but FREE for those that cant afford Casper, not that i can say its a patch on Casper.</font> </p>
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Before Casper, I used Radmind and a collection of my own homebrewed shell scripts to handle deployment, software distribution, patch management and general system maintenance. Tasks using these technologies are not very duplicatable in junior staff due to the learning curve. That means I have to be around all the time. That's bad. </p>
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