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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">No it is not possible from what I understand. If it is powered on but the lid shut it kills all network connections. I know it kills my ssh sessions when a user closes their lid. I have had it done to me quite often. I will get them on chat, tell them that I am ssh in and will fix their issue with out them knowing it. I say ok the command is running but needs time to complete, they close their lid and move along, and my session was murdered.</font> </p>
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Wait a second--Is it possible for a laptop, closed and in a cart, to run scripts and such?  If so, will it go back to sleep when it is done, and is heat an issue?  (The carts are ventilated, mind you.) </p>
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Also, is it possible to throttle software update?  If I wanted my clients to download the updates while the computers are in use (and not hammer the network too hard), is there any way to do that (preferably on the client side)? </p>
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Sitting in a cart powered off or asleep seems to be the main problem here.  You can use MCX (via scripting or WGM) to schedule a boot/reboot/wake time.  If you schedule this during off-hours, and then have a software update policy following closely behind, this should solve the issue, assuming the machines are connected to your network while in the cart. </p>
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At one school I worked with, we had a closet built with a secure lock, ventilation, power and ethernet.  The laptops went into this closet over the weekend where they could sit on the network and receive any maintenance or updates. </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">There is also a softwareupdate binary from the command line.  You could create a policy to run or do it via ARD admin</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">-l | --listList all appropriate updates</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">-d | --downloadDownload Only</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">-a | --allall appropriate updates</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">--ignore <label> ...Ignore specific updates</font> </p>
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<font size="3" face="Lucida Grande">--reset-ignoredClear all ignored updates</font> </p>
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>>> Matthew Butch <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:matt@pennmanor.net">matt@pennmanor.net</a>> 04/02/09 9:52 AM >>> </p>
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Greetings.<br><br>How do you handle software updates on laptop labs?  We have carts of  <br>laptops in our schools, and, if they are not being used by a student,  <br>they are charging in the cart.  That doesn't provide for a nice way to  <br>update them after hours without pulling each machine out of the cart,  <br>and yet, I don't really want to pop up a message to a student saying,  <br>"Your computer is going to reboot now.  Deal with it!"<br><br>Also, when you use the GUI tools to do software update, the machine  <br>logs out and you get a nice progress indicator showing that updates  <br>are installing.  Is there any way to do that from the command line?   <br>(Yes, I know one can install updates, and Casper handles it nicely,  <br>but can I get the progress bar?  We had some machines set to update,  <br>and then found they had kernel panicked.  We wondered if a user  <br>noticed the machine became sluggish and forced it off.)  More  <br>generally, how do you convey to users that updates are in progress?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Clinton Blackmore<br><br>This email has been scanned by Barracuda Network's Anti-Virus and Spam Firewall.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Casper mailing list<br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:Casper@list.jamfsoftware.com">Casper@list.jamfsoftware.com</a><br><a target="_blank" href="http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper">http://list.jamfsoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/casper</a><br> </p>
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